tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post284461915178372349..comments2024-02-26T21:27:17.091+13:00Comments on The Fundy Post: They fought the lulz but the lulz wonPaulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-51854275896536217052011-04-08T16:49:18.861+12:002011-04-08T16:49:18.861+12:00Why are you telling me this?Why are you telling me this?Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-6518107661605058422008-04-04T11:50:00.000+13:002008-04-04T11:50:00.000+13:00Hmmm. Has anyone contacted MedSafe about this? It'...Hmmm. Has anyone contacted MedSafe about this? It's probably the appropriate regulatory agency...<BR/><BR/>Craig YAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-53364678758312876402008-04-03T12:08:00.000+13:002008-04-03T12:08:00.000+13:00But what an excellent thought.But what an excellent thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-78650895979649086542008-04-03T11:36:00.000+13:002008-04-03T11:36:00.000+13:00I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but i...I'm sure I'm not the first to think of this, but if the e-meter is being used putatively as a diagnostic device, then is there not law to say that it must meet various standards?<BR/><BR/>The regulation of medical devices in NZ is not very tight, but there are some rules and agencies to whom you can appeal. For example, it would be interesting to know whether e meters comply with regulation NZECP-12 under the New Zealand Electrical Code of Practice<BR/><BR/>http://www.trade.gov/td/health/newzealandregs.html<BR/><BR/>I think that NZ uses the Australian legal definition of a medical device. Which includes two promising bits:<BR/><BR/>- preventing, diagnosing, curing or alleviating a disease, ailment, defect or injury in persons or animals;<BR/><BR/>and <BR/><BR/>- testing the susceptibility of persons or animals to a disease or ailment<BR/><BR/>http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/html/determine.htm <BR/><BR/>If a device is legally a medical device, then it has to have ISO standards and all sorts of stuff. It could cause, at the minimum, bureaucratic annoyance if someone were to enforce this for the gadgets used by Scientologists.<BR/><BR/>Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-60735047455704562008-04-03T11:05:00.000+13:002008-04-03T11:05:00.000+13:00Also, there's a vast difference between a simple c...Also, there's a vast difference between a simple creed of faith that people apply to their own lives, and one which obliges you to pay money to discover.<BR/><BR/>While people are free to do what they like, most churches act as voluntary charities. The CoS is a business, and therefore one could argue should be subject to the same consumer laws as other businesses, including fraud laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-77266936475045940932008-04-03T10:00:00.000+13:002008-04-03T10:00:00.000+13:00"But the scientologists' beliefs are hardly any mo..."But the scientologists' beliefs are hardly any more ridiculous than those of christians, muslims or jews."<BR/><BR/>Can't find the exact quote from South Park but:<BR/><BR/>At one point, one of the kids calls the Super Adventure Club's central message "retarded," and the club's leader asks, and I'm paraphrasing (a lot), "Is it any more retarded than the son of God coming to Earth to save us, or a Buddhist sitting in a tree for 20 years?" And one of the kids responds: "Yes, it's way, way more retarded."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-37544497170059068562008-04-02T16:35:00.000+13:002008-04-02T16:35:00.000+13:004chan may be fucked but its free.4chan may be fucked but its free.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-55572372444031871632008-04-02T15:35:00.000+13:002008-04-02T15:35:00.000+13:00Scientology is a particularly exploitative religio...Scientology is a particularly exploitative religion, there's no doubt. But the scientologists' beliefs are hardly any more ridiculous than those of christians, muslims or jews. They are, indeed, all equally ridiculous, and all equally undeserving of tax exemptions.<BR/><BR/>And besides, 4chan is every bit as fucked up as L. Ron's cult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-61584900647880635682008-04-02T12:57:00.000+13:002008-04-02T12:57:00.000+13:00In the vein of demented scientologists (a redundan...In the vein of demented scientologists (a redundant term, surely) here is a wonderful parody of Tom Cruise from the upcoming Superhero movie...<BR/><BR/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=UpoWoZnm4BwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-47670952901452494492008-04-02T10:19:00.000+13:002008-04-02T10:19:00.000+13:00My son, who told me about Anonymous before the new...My son, who told me about Anonymous before the newspapers did, has mentioned, in connection with the Epic New Zealand Fail, New Zealand Fail Guy:<BR/><BR/>http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/New_Zealand_Fail_Guy<BR/><BR/>Some munted sense of pride stirs within me.Russell Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06272870489640380269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-4413100053369223462008-04-02T09:52:00.000+13:002008-04-02T09:52:00.000+13:00Well, it will be interesting to see what fallout o...Well, it will be interesting to see what fallout occurs from this outside this comment thread. I find I keep checking back here every few hours to see if a conflagration has started.Matthew R. X. Dentithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12499867223966169985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-11212700955274667282008-04-01T22:34:00.000+13:002008-04-01T22:34:00.000+13:00Oh dear Paul you have done it now, your little spa...Oh dear Paul you have done it now, your little spat with the Rationalists will be as nothing now, Anonymous has you pegged, the lawyers can't be far behind.<BR/><BR/>I have never understood why people go for Scientology, after all it is surely much cheaper to have 'Gullible Idiot' tattooed on your forehead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-81906220702934931872008-04-01T22:19:00.000+13:002008-04-01T22:19:00.000+13:00I can haz internet hate machine ? On a more seriou...I can haz internet hate machine ? <BR/><BR/>On a more serious note: were scientology just a new bunch of religious pantomime art then fine, its adherents can go over and live in their little corners and we with our open access to their doctrines will feel free to criticise them and debate openly. <BR/><BR/>However the fact that scientology's theological basis is aggressively and oppressively defended from any scrutiny and the church as an organisation is an extremely vindictive beast makes it a body that is going to be held up to a much higher level of scrutiny. Lets face it, you're not doing yourself any favours with your behaviour.Forensic morselshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978821372097561683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-14098543216257539992008-04-01T16:53:00.000+13:002008-04-01T16:53:00.000+13:00Anonymous 3:31 said, (I've been a Scientologist fo...Anonymous 3:31 said, <I>(I've been a Scientologist for years and they haven't killed me yet! I worry way more about being killed by a Guy-Fawkes-mask-wearing psychopath)</I><BR/><BR/>Don't worry, Scientologist, we are from the internet. We have come to help.Gracioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08684332773415521786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-36354173203363910042008-04-01T16:51:00.000+13:002008-04-01T16:51:00.000+13:00Okay, trying those links again:http://www.rue89.co...Okay, trying those links again:<BR/><BR/><A>http://www.rue89.com/2008/03/18/scientologie-les-dessous-de-laffaire-martine-boublil </A><BR/><A>http://www.leparisien.fr/home/info/faitsdivers/articles/L-ETRANGE-SEQUESTRATION-QUI-EMBARRASSE-LA-SCIENTOLOGIE_296097555</A><BR/><A>http://www.lermanet.com/italian-scientology-crime.htm</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-38648371088444177942008-04-01T16:48:00.000+13:002008-04-01T16:48:00.000+13:00This comment has been removed by the author.Gracioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08684332773415521786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-13678477132152954332008-04-01T16:45:00.000+13:002008-04-01T16:45:00.000+13:00Anonymous said, [i]"Paul, how is [/i]"all I can sa...Anonymous said, [i]"Paul, how is [/i]"all I can say is Lisa McPherson" a meaningful comment?[i] Even if all the horror stories told on the net about Lisa's death were true - and they most certainly are not - it only speaks badly of the 2 or 3 people who were supposed to care for her in Florida, not the Church as a whole.[/i]<BR/>Lisa McPherson (1995) = Martine Boublil (2008)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Police in Italy have rescued a French woman held hostage by a group of Scientologists in Italy. Found partly nude, on a bug-infested mattress in unsanitary conditions, the woman, who suffers from major depression, was the subject of a Scientologist process called the "Introspection Rundown". She needed hospitalisation for several weeks before she could be repatriated to France, from which she was initially kidnapped.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sources:<BR/>http://www.rue89.com/2008/03/18/scientologie-les-dessous-de-laffaire-martine-boublil <BR/>http://www.leparisien.fr/home/info/faitsdivers/articles/L-ETRANGE-SEQUESTRATION-QUI-EMBARRASSE-LA-SCIENTOLOGIE_296097555<BR/><BR/><BR/>Translations: http://www.lermanet.com/italian-scientology-crime.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-76606176182302276342008-04-01T15:23:00.000+13:002008-04-01T15:23:00.000+13:00Paul, how is "all I can say is Lisa McPherson" a m...Paul, how is <I>"all I can say is Lisa McPherson"</I> a meaningful comment? Even if all the horror stories told on the net about Lisa's death were true - and they most certainly are not - it only speaks badly of the 2 or 3 people who were supposed to care for her in Florida, not the Church as a whole. Invoking Lisa's name like a robotic parrot doesn't really foster an intelligent discussion. The Scn-haters love to make it seem like all Scientologists everywhere are responsible for one woman's death. And then they try to amplify the whole thing as much as possible, to use for their "Scientology Kills!" campfire spook story.<BR/><BR/>(I've been a Scientologist for years and they haven't killed me yet! I worry way more about being killed by a Guy-Fawkes-mask-wearing psychopath)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-71992066507323202332008-04-01T14:58:00.000+13:002008-04-01T14:58:00.000+13:00How many of the little buggers are there? I seem t...How many of the little buggers are there? I seem to recall there only being one Scientologist church, based in Auckland.<BR/><BR/>Craig YAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-4773726017893203372008-04-01T14:45:00.000+13:002008-04-01T14:45:00.000+13:00You people are quick - that comment came within fi...You people are quick - that comment came within fifteen minutes of my posting.<BR/><BR/>All I can say is Lisa McPherson.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-46078677470796195212008-04-01T14:31:00.000+13:002008-04-01T14:31:00.000+13:00All you've done is regurgitate, without much sourc...All you've done is regurgitate, without much sourcing, lies and gossip you read on other people's disreputable blogs and websites. Why don't you put your bitterness aside and try to learn <A HREF="http://www.afterthetsunami.org/" REL="nofollow">what Scientology is really doing</A> to help the planet? We'd love to have you lend a hand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com