tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post4805638851548493050..comments2024-02-26T21:27:17.091+13:00Comments on The Fundy Post: Get off the busPaulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-53367263945758578922009-01-14T19:53:00.000+13:002009-01-14T19:53:00.000+13:00The BUSES campaign would be great here but we prob...The BUSES campaign would be great here but we probably need the fundamentalists to lead off first.<BR/><BR/>Have you heard of the secular group in Wisonsin that are fighting this stuff. Great!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-61460322415046823342009-01-11T14:47:00.000+13:002009-01-11T14:47:00.000+13:00I/S: At last count, there were only about one hund...I/S: <BR/>At last count, there were only about one hundred or so Scientologists, and only one church for the aforementioned NRM, in Auckland. Oddly enough, Christoform NRMs like Scientology and Unificationism have had a harder time here than the likes of the Hare Krishnas...<BR/><BR/>Craig YAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-86251485027043762152009-01-10T22:10:00.000+13:002009-01-10T22:10:00.000+13:00I enjoy the relative local lack of fundies compare...<I>I enjoy the relative local lack of fundies compared to the home country, but find your statement far too... optimistic? The next generation might well surprise you in this regard.</I><BR/><BR/>True - they might all end up as Scientologists. But we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.Idiot/Savanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993069909613708957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-60008214247308934302009-01-10T11:39:00.000+13:002009-01-10T11:39:00.000+13:00Hmmm. RTLNZ's court case hasn't actually changed t...Hmmm. RTLNZ's court case hasn't actually changed things in practice, and is being appealed to the Court of Appeal; the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria have decriminalised abortion altogether; and Barack Obama looks set to pass the Freedom of Choice Act, and strike down all US incremental anti-abortion restrictions.<BR/><BR/>Most NZ AAs have seen better days. I suspect the pro-choice side will win due to enemy attrition. <BR/><BR/>Craig YAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-87826529195686623602009-01-10T07:10:00.000+13:002009-01-10T07:10:00.000+13:00In NZ, atheism has pretty much won, and we're just...<I>In NZ, atheism has pretty much won, and we're just waiting for the rump of greying religious people to die off.</I><BR/><BR/>I enjoy the relative local lack of fundies compared to the home country, but find your statement far too... optimistic? The next generation might well surprise you in this regard. What heartens me is that social attitudes - towards the behaviours that most major religions consider disordered or deviant - seem truly to be evolving. But a bigoted turn is always around the corner, see what's happening with regards to abortion in countries that thought to have won this battle once and for all thirty years ago.<BR/><BR/>('stser')Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-49197408833086101042009-01-09T23:47:00.000+13:002009-01-09T23:47:00.000+13:00Paul & Craig: I agree, there are still inequit...Paul & Craig: I agree, there are still inequities. And those battles are worth fighting.Idiot/Savanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993069909613708957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-42304415853766144352009-01-09T18:46:00.000+13:002009-01-09T18:46:00.000+13:00IdiotWhatever, go back to sleep sorry to disturb y...Idiot<BR/>Whatever, go back to sleep sorry to disturb you.<BR/><BR/>OBTW accusing me of having a need to preach shows the shallowness of your thoughts on the matter.alovrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06139517672281673462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-38991552820117439102009-01-09T17:39:00.000+13:002009-01-09T17:39:00.000+13:00And for that matter, why is it that the United Kin...And for that matter, why is it that the United Kingdom has repealed its blasphemy laws and we still haven't- moribund though they are?<BR/><BR/>Craig YAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-21199294897807855532009-01-09T13:01:00.000+13:002009-01-09T13:01:00.000+13:00Still, there remain areas where the religious enjo...Still, there remain areas where the religious enjoy unfair privilege, such as the charitable status of religious groups and the public subsidy of religious schools. An effective Rationalist group would be addressing these concerns.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024440694895271805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-45166940466936104892009-01-09T09:57:00.000+13:002009-01-09T09:57:00.000+13:00Logarithmn: The fact is, she will (or at least is ...Logarithmn: The fact is, she <I>will</I> (or at least is highly likely to) be right downunder, at least on current trends. In NZ, atheism has pretty much won, and we're just waiting for the rump of greying religious people to die off. So quite apart from philosophical differences about how religious you are about your atheism (you seem to feel the need to preach it; I prefer to sleep in on Sunday mornings), there's also an overwhelming pragmatic issue: why invest resources unnecessarily in a battle that has already been won? Unless your aim is the complete elimination of rival faiths (oh, sorry, religious belief), then that simply seems like a stupid idea.<BR/><BR/>And OTOH, if you want to see similar ads in NZ, no-one is stopping you. Go ahead and do it. Personally, though, I don't think its worth the effort.<BR/><BR/>Uroskin: the "probably" was apparently required in order to meet advertising standards (which seems a bit one-sided, since no "probably" is required for claims that non-believers will burn forever in the fires of hell).Idiot/Savanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993069909613708957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-57676171369035622009-01-09T09:21:00.000+13:002009-01-09T09:21:00.000+13:00I dislike the agnostic compromise they made on the...I dislike the agnostic compromise they made on the bus message. Perhaps your Professor Cooke's Humanist World View finds more comfort in that rather than "There is no God, now get on with your own fucking life without god-bothering us" plastered on the back of Stagecoach (or Magic) bus.<BR/><BR/>Word verification: realinHans Versluyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15331809478789352312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-50729376297457549972009-01-08T18:57:00.000+13:002009-01-08T18:57:00.000+13:00Well reading IS's blog was as much a waste of time...Well reading IS's blog was as much a waste of time as arguing with a christian.<BR/><BR/>"After all, the whole point of godlessness is not giving a shit."<BR/><BR/>No its not<BR/><BR/>"And talking about it simply boosts the belief amongst the godful"<BR/> An unevidenced claim probably more anecdotal that anything.<BR/><BR/>"Better to avoid that, and let their delusions die a quiet, demographic death, than waste breath on it and in the process give them oxygen"<BR/><BR/>And thus the religious can continue to drag out their crutch when tragedy strikes and inflict it on the rest of us. And we must be silent as they parade their lunacy unchallenged?<BR/><BR/>Strangely enough Richard Dawkins, along with many others, thought the exact same thing.<BR/> I find his NZcentricity mindless. This is a global issue so saying she'll be right downudder. Well I thought better of this person.<BR/>I was going to subscribe, now I won't.alovrinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06139517672281673462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36994129.post-77134207650224603722009-01-08T15:44:00.000+13:002009-01-08T15:44:00.000+13:00Idiot/Savant discusses the Atheist Bus campaign an...<I>Idiot/Savant discusses the Atheist Bus campaign and gives some good reasons why it shouldn't happen here.</I><BR/><BR/>More why I wouldn't bother with it personally, despite it being a good joke.Idiot/Savanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993069909613708957noreply@blogger.com