If you don't hear from me for a while, it is because I am busy trying to construct a syllogism from this argument on NZ Conservative.
Here is my work so far:
1. An atheist says that "without the Roman Catholic Church, there would be no Western civilization.''
2. The atheist "clearly recognises that modern civilisation results from mankind's realisation that there are eternal truths regarding our origin, and they are not derived from mankind itself or the primordial soup."
3. Those who say otherwise behave as brutish oafs.
This may take some time.